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February 1, 2017, 11:36 am
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Diffusion of Pottery across Afro-Eurasia - Independent Invention in Sudan?

February 2, 2017, 8:42 am
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H/T to Awale Ismail from http://anthromadness.blogspot.de/

If true, this would certainly be a paradigm shift. Though it would explain the late appearance of pottery in the places that connect North Asia and the Middle East, namely the Caucasus and Central Asia.

Abstract:

""Where did pottery first appear in the Old World? Statistical modelling of radiocarbon dates suggests that ceramic vessel technology had independent origins in two different hunter-gatherer societies. Regression models were used to estimate average rates of spread and geographic dispersal of the new technology. The models confirm independent origins in East Asia (c. 16000 cal BP) and North Africa (c. 12000 cal BP). The North African tradition may have later influenced the emergence of Near Eastern pottery, which then flowed west into Mediterranean Europe as part of a Western Neolithic, closely associated with the uptake of farming."

Regarding more recent discoveries in Sudan:

"A number of locations inNorth Africa have sites with pottery dated to the earlyHolocene. Ounjougou, in Mali, has some of the very earliest dates but lies quite distant from the Near East (Huysecom et al. 2009). Pottery that is potentially as early as the Ounjougou material has been found at sites that are geographically closer to the Near East. Bir Kiseiba, in theWestern Desert of Egypt, has the earliest dates coming from site E-79-8, although with large margins of error, and in the central Nile Valley of Sudan, the Saggai site has produced the region’s earliest date for pottery (Close 1995)... We have taken... Saggai in Sudan (e.g. Caneva 1983) as the origin point in Africa. The exact location of the source point in the broader region of origination is unlikely to significantly affect the modelled results.."

Unfortunately, it's not open access. But the supplementary material alone is quite informative, including this awesome map



Link: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journ...56C2A31AAABF81
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The Neolithic Transition in the Baltic Was Not Driven by Admixture with Early Europea

February 2, 2017, 9:57 am
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http://www.cell.com/current-biology/...822(16)31542-1

Highlights



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    A degree of genetic continuity from the Mesolithic to the Neolithic in the Baltic


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    Steppe-related genetic influences found in the Baltic during the Neolithic


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    No Anatolian farmer-related genetic admixture in Neolithic Baltic samples


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    Steppe ancestry in Latvia at the time of the emergence of Balto-Slavic languages


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  • Have not read this yet, but in the picture I see R1b1b in Latvia before 7000 years, together with Narva culture and earliest pottery??

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R1b found in Mesolithic Hunter-Gatherer in Latvia

February 2, 2017, 10:10 am
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Fresh news from Anthrogenica, Mesolithic sample of R1b haplogroup in Latvia:

Parastais wrote: "Guys, more fun, more fun -
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php...h-Early-Europea
Mesolithic R1b in Latvia, Zvejnieki burial :)

Link: http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fullte...9822(16)31542-1

Highlights:

• A degree of genetic continuity from the Mesolithic to the Neolithic in the Baltic
• Steppe-related genetic influences found in the Baltic during the Neolithic
• No Anatolian farmer-related genetic admixture in Neolithic Baltic samples
• Steppe ancestry in Latvia at the time of the emergence of Balto-Slavic language"
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The Neolithic Transition in the Baltic Was Not Driven by Admixture with Early Europea

February 2, 2017, 10:57 am
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The Neolithic transitions in the Baltic and Dnieper Rapids region of Ukraine show very different archaeological and genetic dynamics to those observed in Central and Western Europe. Although in central Europe pottery and agriculture arrive as a package, in the Baltic and Dnieper Rapids the onset of the Neolithic is characterized by the appearance of ceramics, with a definitive shift to an agro-pastoralist economy only occurring during the Late Neolithic/Bronze Age [13, 14, 15, 16, 19]. Although the prolonged and piecemeal uptake of Neolithic characteristics in these regions makes it challenging to attribute a definitive shift in ideology or lifestyle, it does, along with evidence for continuities in material culture and settlement patterns, suggest that Neolithic features were predominantly adopted by indigenous hunter-gatherers in this region [13, 14, 15, 16, 37]. We find genetic evidence in support of this in the affinity of the Latvian and Ukrainian Neolithic samples, Latvian_MN1 and Ukrainian_N1, to earlier Mesolithic samples from the same respective regions. However, we also find indications of genetic impact from exogenous populations during the Neolithic, most likely from northern Eurasia and the Pontic Steppe. These influences are distinct from the Anatolian-farmer-related gene flow found in central Europe during this period. It is interesting to note that even in outlying areas of Europe, such as Sweden and Ireland [38, 39], an Anatolian-farmer-related genetic signature is present by the Middle to Late Neolithic period (∼5,300–4,700 cal BP). We conclude that the gradual appearance of features associated with the Neolithic package in the Baltic and Dnieper Rapids was not tied to the same major genetic changes as in other regions of Europe. The emergence of Neolithic features in the absence of immigration by Anatolian farmers highlights the roles of horizontal cultural transmission and potentially independent innovation during the Neolithic transition.

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)31542-1

Some think that corded ware and later potapovka/sintashta originated from herders in the steppe/forest area or even further north.
This study makes that more likely.


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What are Bosnian genetics similar to? (comparable country with almost same genetics)

February 2, 2017, 12:46 pm
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I always heard that Bosnians are south Slavic people, so naturally I thought they shared same dna as Russians. After I did some research I found that, only 15 % of dna in bosnians is the ''slavic'' gene. Also known as r1a. So my question to you guys is, what comparable country shares the same or almost same genetics as people from Bosnia and Herzegovina?

Thanks.
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America first ! But second....[emoji12]

February 2, 2017, 11:29 pm
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Trending topic in Europe! First started by the Dutch TV host Arjen Lubach:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc

Of course the Germans followed immediately:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WcH9eW...ature=youtu.be

And the Belgians:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=H5q5wTBhGRA

And Switzerland:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=reuJ8yVCgSM

and the Danes:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ryppmn...ature=youtu.be

Enjoy! And who is next? Post it!




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New phylogenetic trees of R1a

February 3, 2017, 2:54 am
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At long last I have found time and energy to update the phylogenetic tree of Y-haplogroup R1a. There are now six separate trees (R1a stem, L664, Z284, M458, Z280 and Z93) instead of two. Like for the other haplogroup trees which I have updated in the last few months (all haplogroups except R1b), I have highlighted the main SNPs that define the major branches. I am only going to post the stem tree here so as not to clutter, and also because four of the other five trees are better seen in full screen by clicking on them.




The Z280 tree could have been expanded further, especially under Y33, YP237 and YP340, which are three huge branches.

Under Y33 are a few deep clades that are about 2000 years old and are found Italy, southern France and Spain. They were most likely brought by the Goths.

1) Y2902>Y3226>Y3219>YP1144 : found in Poland, Slovakia, Romania, Croatia, Slovenia, Italy and southern France.
2) Y2902>Y3994 : found in Sicily and England
3) Y2902>CTS11142 : found in central Spain
4) Y3301>L1280>FGC11555 : found in Germany, Poland, Slovakia, Ukraine, Romania, Greece, ex-Yugoslavia and northern Italy
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I am R1b1a1a2a1. Is this definitely or can I research deeper?

February 3, 2017, 7:17 am
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Hello I am fairly new to this.

I have done a 23andMe test and then used it on several calculators. They all say I am R1b1a1a2a1.


Here is my question:

-Is my haplogroup definitely R1b1a1a2a1?

OR

-I could go deeper and find out more but 23andMe genes limits my Haplogroup search to R1b1a1a2a1?
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To everyone who claims that Malta Boy was "Mongoloid"

February 3, 2017, 2:01 pm
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This thread is decicated to all people who claim that ANE admixture is "Mongoloid".

Malta Boy is on GEDmatch - kit number F999914.

Malta Boy in Dodecad V3 calculator = 84% Caucasoid:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European 37.68
2 South_Asian 26.04
3 East_European 20.03
4 Northeast_Asian 15.53
5 Neo_African 0.38
6 Palaeo_African 0.34

Malta Boy in Gedrosia K3 calculator = 70% Caucasoid:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 69.88
2 E_Eurasian 30.12

Malta Boy in Eurogenes K15 calculator = 0% East Asian:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Eastern_Euro 38.02
2 South_Asian 20.31
3 Amerindian 18.62
4 North_Sea 15.91
5 Baltic 6.54
6 Sub-Saharan 0.47
7 Oceanian 0.12

Malta Boy in Gedrosia K6 = 94% ANE, 2% East Asian, 2% WHG, 2% ASE:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 94.13
2 East_Asian 2.01
3 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 1.93
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.78
5 Sub_Saharan 0.09
6 Natufian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 AG2 6.76
2 AG3 6.76
3 MA1 6.76
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4 EHG 24.08
5 GujaratiB 62.91
6 Punjabi 63.18
7 CHG 64
8 GujaratiA 64.19
9 Kalash 64.27
10 Sindhi 64.28
11 Pathan 64.43
12 Kurd_SE 65.3
13 Burusho 65.56
14 Balochi 65.81
15 Steppe_EMBA 66.02
16 GujaratiC 66.15
17 Brahui 66.21
18 GujaratiD 66.47
19 Punjabi_PJL 67.62
20 Makrani 67.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.5% MA1 + 6.5% GoyetQ116 @ 1.92
2 93.5% AG2 + 6.5% GoyetQ116 @ 1.92
3 93.5% AG3 + 6.5% GoyetQ116 @ 1.92
4 93.4% AG2 + 6.6% Kharia @ 2.14
5 93.4% AG3 + 6.6% Kharia @ 2.14
6 93.4% MA1 + 6.6% Kharia @ 2.14
7 92% MA1 + 8% Bengali @ 2.54
8 92% AG2 + 8% Bengali @ 2.54
9 92% AG3 + 8% Bengali @ 2.54
10 92.8% AG2 + 7.2% Palliyar @ 2.55
11 92.8% AG3 + 7.2% Palliyar @ 2.55
12 92.8% MA1 + 7.2% Palliyar @ 2.55
13 93.1% AG2 + 6.9% Uzbek @ 2.57
14 93.1% AG3 + 6.9% Uzbek @ 2.57
15 93.1% MA1 + 6.9% Uzbek @ 2.57
16 92.1% AG2 + 7.9% Steppe_IA @ 2.58
17 92.1% AG3 + 7.9% Steppe_IA @ 2.58
18 92.1% MA1 + 7.9% Steppe_IA @ 2.58
19 93.2% AG2 + 6.8% Paniyas @ 2.64
20 93.2% AG3 + 6.8% Paniyas @ 2.64
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Hv0

February 4, 2017, 4:18 am
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Hey!

My results on FTDNA simply say "HV".

When I ran my RSRS values through http://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/ I came up with HV0 as my best match.

Makes sense as I have marker 16298C.

Are there any other sites I can run my results through and figure out what subclade I'm in without paying more at FTDNA?

Also, where can I learn more about HV0/Pre-V and it's distribution?
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Poland = San Escobar

February 4, 2017, 7:38 am
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Coding Variants for height

February 4, 2017, 8:30 am
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See:
Marouli et al
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...wn-height-loci

"Height is a highly heritable, classic polygenic trait with approximately 700 common associated variants identified through genome-wide association studies so far. Here, we report 83 height-associated coding variants with lower minor-allele frequencies (in the range of 0.1–4.8%) and effects of up to 2 centimetres per allele (such as those in IHH, STC2, AR and CRISPLD2), greater than ten times the average effect of common variants. In functional follow-up studies, rare height-increasing alleles of STC2 (giving an increase of 1–2 centimetres per allele) compromised proteolytic inhibition of PAPP-A and increased cleavage of IGFBP-4 in vitro, resulting in higher bioavailability of insulin-like growth factors. These 83 height-associated variants overlap genes that are mutated in monogenic growth disorders and highlight new biological candidates (such as ADAMTS3, IL11RA and NOX4) and pathways (such as proteoglycan and glycosaminoglycan synthesis) involved in growth. Our results demonstrate that sufficiently large sample sizes can uncover rare and low-frequency variants of moderate-to-large effect associated with polygenic human phenotypes, and that these variants implicate relevant genes and pathways."


If anyone has institutional access maybe you could fill us in. Most of the information is in the Supplement, probably, though.

See:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ry-information

Table 4
Coding variants for height-Marouli et al.jpg
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Sleep is for forgetfullness

February 4, 2017, 8:40 am
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Well, at least partly.

See:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/s...pgtype=article

"Over the years, scientists have come up with a lot of ideas about why we sleep.Some have argued that it’s a way to save energy. Others have suggested that slumber provides an opportunity to clear away the brain’s cellular waste. Still others have proposed that sleep simply forces animals to lie still, letting them hide from predators.
A pair of papers published on Thursday in the journal Science offer evidence for another notion: We sleep to forget some of the things we learn each day.
In order to learn, we have to grow connections, or synapses, between the neurons in our brains. These connections enable neurons to send signals to one another quickly and efficiently. We store new memories in these networks.
In 2003, Giulio Tononi and Chiara Cirelli, biologists at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, proposed that synapses grew so exuberantly during the day that our brain circuits got “noisy.” When we sleep, the scientists argued, our brains pare back the connections to lift the signal over the noise."

In the years since they figured out a way to test it in the lab.

"The synapses in the brains of sleeping mice, they found, were 18 percent smaller than in awake ones. “That there’s such a big change over all is surprising,” Dr. Tononi said.
The second study was led by Graham H. Diering, a postdoctoral researcher at Johns Hopkins University."

"they found that the number of surface proteins dropped during sleep. That decline is what you would expect if the synapses were shrinking.
Dr. Diering and his colleagues then searched for the molecular trigger for this change. They found that hundreds of proteins increase or decrease inside of synapses during the night. But one protein in particular, called Homer1A, stood out."

"Dr. Diering’s research suggests that sleepiness triggers neurons to make Homer1A and ship it into their synapses. When sleep arrives, Homer1A turns on the pruning machinery."

"In their own experiment, Dr. Tononi and his colleagues found that the pruning didn’t strike every neuron. A fifth of the synapses were unchanged. It’s possible that these synapses encode well-established memories that shouldn’t be tampered with.
“You can forget in a smart way,” Dr. Tononi said.
Other researchers cautioned that the new findings weren’t definitive proof of the synaptic homeostasis hypothesis."



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Putting the taste back into tomatoes

February 4, 2017, 9:26 am
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That's after taking it out, of course. Apparently, when they messed around with the genes in order to make tomatoes more red, and big, and to have a longer shelf life, none of the scientists actually tasted them. How else couldn't they have realized that in the process they edited out the taste?

So, they then had to spend years trying to put it back in. If they make these kinds of mistakes with a damn tomato, how many will they make on humans?

Anyway, see here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/s...oes-genes.html

What I've been doing in terms of fresh tomatoes in the mean time is buying the very small "cherry" tomatoes, or heirloom tomatoes in season from our farmers. I also grow my own in pots, because the farmers only come all the way in once a week.

Some may not be pretty, and they're not uniform, but they taste good.



Now, could they please put the scent back in tea roses? I ripped out all mine a couple of years ago; yes, they last all summer, and yes they have a beautiful shape and come in glorious colors. They just have no scent. Plus, they're incredibly high maintenance with all the diseases to which they're prone, and they look better in a vase than they do growing. Now I have roses closer to the natural variety, although they've tinkered with them to get them to last longer. They smell great, look great in the garden, but they do have a tendency to get "blowsy" and unkempt looking pretty soon. They still need some work.

I went from these spindly plants:



To shrubs like this:


Speaking of plants which need modification, I wish they'd make peonies longer lasting and with a stem which doesn't have to be propped up by a trellis.
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How do I test my haplogroup?

February 4, 2017, 10:10 am
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I always wanted to know for sure where my ancestors are from. First of all, I'm very skeptical and have doubts about how accurate these results really are. How much does it cost to take one of those tests, and how accurate do I need to expect them? Let's say they show me that my dna is from haplogroup Ia2a which is balkan haploroup. And... 15 % r1a. What do I interpret from this? That my ancestors are from the Balkans?

Thanks in advance, - Jose
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Why autosomal admixtures is always linked with Y-dna Haplogroups ?

February 4, 2017, 11:28 am
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Hi, for stopping ***** other's topic and because in six months, nobody respond me to that question. Why autosomal admixtures like WHG,EEF,CHG are linked with y-dna haplogroups ? I'm totally neophyt with genetic can someone explain me in details how the logic of calculing admixtures works ?
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Skin cancer, a mass destruction.

February 4, 2017, 5:43 pm
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The Bellow Video is from Denmark,

Danish campaign SUN SAFETY against Skin cancer asks officially help from Greek habitats and universities help against skin cancer,
and instructions on how north people should act when visit S Europe,
AT DENMARK EVERYDAY ONE DANISH DIES FROM SKIN CANCER.



in Spanish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvT4SVG8fMc

in Italian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbDZSV-AekE

well I know that each 'race' develops certain defences and DNA against enviroment, as also Nature DNA selects the correct 'combo' of DNA,
I know majority of meditterean people have the ability to turn dark very fast (dark not red) but not rejecting it so fast,
Personally I need to 2-3 days to turn full dark (with blond hairs :grin:) and about 7 days to return by 70% to normal white colour,
I never used a UV protection oil, as most Greeks and Medittereans,
Try Greek Yogurt,

Simply try to avoid dirrect sun from local time 11 till 16:00 the first day,
the best sun is when sun comes out, as morning till 11:00
if it is need use hat and cover most body,
second day you get 1 more hour, avoid Sun from 12-15:00
same rest days

if you feel or you see red spots on skin use Greek Yogurt,
it does miracles with sun burns,

Generally avoid staying hours on direct sun,
avoid alcool, fat and meat also, at least during date,
the normal the blood , the better circulation, prevents many problems from sun,


watvh the photo, it is middle July at tobacco plantations,
probably above 30 C and surely before 12 o clock, or after 16:00





PS
SUN gives life
SUN takes life

use the 'meter' to be perfect
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DNATRIBES admixture maps and results

February 5, 2017, 5:01 am
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recommendations for places to upload raw data?

February 5, 2017, 3:54 pm
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Hello all, I've used some of the mapping calculators posted on here recently and was hoping people had recs for similar analyzing programs? I've used dna.land and wegene, i just checked out ftdna and apparently they dont accept the current ancestry format, so what else is there? I've already exhausted gedmatch.

also, just wanting some professional opinions but, what do i make of my wildly varying ancestry/dnaland/wegene results?

Ancestry:
Italy/Greece: 52%
Eastern Europe: 38%
European Jewish: 2%
Ireland: 2%
Finland/Northwest Russia: 1%
Europe West: 1%
Scandinavia: <1%
Caucasus: 4%

DNA.Land:












West Eurasian 100% Mediterranean Islander 36%
Northwest European 24%
North Slavic 20%
South/Central European 19%
Ambiguous 1.1%


aaaand Wegene
Europ




  • 90.01%European
    1. 58.18%Hungarian
    2. 23.96%French
    3. 7.11%Sardinian
    4. 0.75%Ashkenazi
    5. 0.01%Others





  • 8.83%Middle Eastern
    1. 4.73%Egyptian
    2. 2.29%Saudi
    3. 1.80%Iranian
    4. 0.00%Others


    South Asian
    1. 0.89%Sindhi
    2. 0%Others


    Others
    1. 0.26%Others






    So what is the truth?




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